Bureau of Land Management, AZ Strip Field Office 435 688-3200 Elk seasons are described in the pronghorn antelope and elk regulations. The grouse season in the fall provides a beautiful time to camp on the Kaibab and an inability to locate grouse is a great excuse for enjoying some of the finest scenery and weather Arizona has to offer. Weather can vary by elevation. There are no easy ways to hunt them, but the breath-taking scenery makes it a great place to try. Want to hunt as soon as 1-3 years? The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. The elevation in this area ranges from 3,000' to 7,000'; vegetation ranges from riparian cottonwood-willow and salt cedar along the Gila River, to Chihuahuan Desert in the lower elevations a Elk hunting in this unit can be extremely difficult due to the terrain. Concentrate on areas that are more inaccessible. Bring binoculars and spotting scopes. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. Often roosting turkeys will respond to these calls giving a hunter a location to begin the mornings hunt. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Your big game hunter questionnaire may no longer be mailed to you. Since 2007 an increase in the number of squirrels observed has taken place, with the advent of more favorable environmental variables we are seeing a corresponding increase in the squirrel population. Included in these hunts are bull only, antlerless and even 275 any-elk tags. No motor vehicles are allowed in the Paria Canyon/Vermilion Cliffs Wilderness Area. Rifle. Bighorn have typically been harvested along the rim of the Paria Plateau near Bush Head, Powells Monument, and Fisher Point. During the fall hunt, turkey hunting is a totally different game. There are very few elk in this unit. Come join the discussion about safety, gear, tips, tricks, optics, gunsmithing, reviews, reports, accessories, classifieds, and more! Not all weather elements are available within the unit. Therefore, chances for success are very low. A map of the zones can be found at Mountain Lion management zone map. This bird was first documented in 12B in Paria Canyon, but has since been regularly observed along the Kanab Creek/ Snake Gulch drainage. The Paria Plateau in eastern 12B has the lowest density of deer and is not part of the migratory herds from the Kaibab Plateau or the Paunsaugunt. Finally, enjoy the finest terrain, climate, and surroundings that nature has to offer, the Kaibab Plateau. The majority of Chukar observed along the rim of the Paria Plateau are in the vicinity of Bush Head, Powells Monument, and Fisher Point. This is a small resident herd and is not part of the deer that migrate from Paunsaugunt or the Kaibab. Hunters should note, the OTC elk tag is not a companion or corresponding tag and has its own hunting season dates, areas and other restrictions. Waterhole hunting becomes less productive as frost begins to supply the need for water. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. . The lion population in Unit 12 is a migratory population of roughly 60-80 animals with the lions essentially following the deer herd as it migrates from summer to winter ranges. I had a similar tag 10 years ago for the Kaibab proper. Watching waterholes that have turkey sign around them provide the turkey hunter with the best opportunity to bag a bearded turkey during this often dry time of the year. Hunters who have no desire to hunt the Paria Plateau and want to hunt the Buckskins or the west side winter range should apply for a 12BW permit. These early hunts can be difficult because the deer are typically located in areas of formidable cover and are not easily located or glassed. Its going to be HOT, if all else fails and you put in little effort, you could come away with a new pair of rattle snake boots! On National Park Service lands, camping is restricted to designated areas. Older age "mature" bulls are taken on a regular basis. Areas: Any areas with concentrations of deer often have lions associated with them. On the ever in demand 12A late hunt, pray (if religious) for snow. This includes chasing, pursuing, or herding antelope with any type of vehicle. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab Naitonal Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; southerly and westerly along the park boundary to Kanab Creek; northerly along Kanab Creek to Snake Gulch; northerly, easterly and southerly around the Kaibab National Forest boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566. A good pair of binoculars and spotting scope will improve the chance of taking a trophy bull. Do you have landowner tags, lease land, or have an lodge? Units 36A, B and C and unit 35A and 35B have good populations of mule deer (and whitetail deer). The Arizona Big Game Application Deadline for Elk is 11:59 P.M. (Arizona Time) Feb 14, 2023 Our online/print magazine has everything in one location: Application info, draw details and odds, fees, hunter requirements, point structure, age restrictions, youth information, weapon restrictions, other tag opportunities, hunt planning and much more. Many hunters go home disappointed that they did not see big bucks on the early hunt, but every hunter should do their homework and know what they should expect on a hunt before setting high expectations. Great Buffalo viewing areas a couple miles north of park entry, If your Lucky. Take care in species identification before dropping the hammer. Bachelor herds are typically broken up by this hunt and bucks can be relatively evenly distributed throughout the plateau. I plan on going up there to scout sometime soon but was wondering if anyone has seen elk up there. If the deer are low and you glass enough it will pay off. The state line is only marked at dirt road crossings. Tree stands up or down canyon from waters can be excellent and reduce the inevitable territorial dispute with other hunters over the waterhole. On the Kaibab Plateau the bird has a very restricted range occupying mixed conifer habitat types near the south end of the Kaibab National Forest and is also found in the Grand Canyon National Park North Rim. Im not at all familiar with the area but read on azgfd that the population is super low. As the season progresses mule deer bucks on the plateau become more and more secretive. Once a track is located the hounds are released and the lion is pursued until treed. By this time of year the deer are visiting water in the dark. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. Huge bucks, forkhorns, and even does have been the objects of desire for hunters in this unit. Essentially, it could take decades of applying to get drawn for a premier hunt for one of Arizona's world class mule deer. Cold nights are the norm in all seasons, specially in non summer months. The health and longevity of this winter range is critical to the long term sustainability of the 12A deer herd. If you have a 12B tag and are trying to decide whether to hunt 12BW or the Paria Plateau, there are a few additional things that you should consider. Roads in the unit can become extremely muddy when wet and heavy rains frequently wash out the main roads, thus it is important to be prepared with suitable shelter, plenty of food, water and extra fuel. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You've got a lot of country to access. The separation of 12BW from 12B was designed to limit the number of hunters and the deer harvest on the Paria Plateau, but not restrict a hunter with a 12B permit to only hunting the Paria Plateau. Southern half of unit is south of Mogollon Rim and has some ponderosa pine forests in the higher elevatio Elk occur throughout unit from high elevation mixed conifer near the Mogollon Rim to the Sunset Mountains just south of Winslow. Deer are can be found in the open sagebrush flats, but not until snow pushes them out of the trees. Grouse often flush at close range in thick cover so be prepared for quick shooting. Elevations range from approximately 4,000 in Glen Canyon to 7,000 on the Paria Plateau. The population grew to about 160 bighorns within the first 8 years. Important Note: (See unit description under Unit Boundaries) 12BW includes the Buckskins to the north of the Kaibab and the west side winter range including Pigeon Canyon and Gunsight Point. Elk season dates can be found in the regulations. Areas of elk concentrations change somewhat year-to-year, depending on localized summer rainfall filling stock tanks and greening up vegetation. Being prepared on this hunt is even more crucial than on the early hunt. Finally, mule deer throughout their range are altering their behavior as hunting pressure increases. Although 12A/12B is not known for its record breaking antelope bucks, hunt success has typically been around 40% for archery and 100% for rifle. And that 20% species distribution may lie 100% within private lands. Some say the great days of the Kaibab are past, others maintain things are as good or better than ever, and still others claim things will be great in the future. This unit is not known for producing large bulls, though elk in the 300-inch or larger range are occasionally taken. Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! The bulls I saw near Bryce were while mule deer hunting. From the South: U.S. Hwy 89A, Wahweap Marina Campground at Lake Powell, administered by the National Park Service; Page Lake Powell Campground, 849 S. Coppermine Rd. Areas: Any areas with concentrations of deer or sheep often have lions associated with them. Are you an outfitter, hunting guide, game processor or local hotel? Arizona Game & Fish Department, Region II- 928-774-5045 . Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. As mentioned above, the main concentration of antelope is in House Rock Valley. Camping is allowed in designated areas and within 30 of open roadways on Forest Service administered lands throughout the unit. Books and countless articles have been written on the subject. It is recommended that hunters do not apply for this hunt in the draw but rather purchase the tags at a significant discount as left over tags. Getting off the road and into the canyons will improve your observations of mule deer bucks, especially mature ones. Kaibab Natl Forest, North Kaibab District 928-643-7395 QUICK NAV: RESIDENCY STATUS: SHOW ODDS FOR: or SHOW UNIT: Arizona - Elk. New Harvest Thresholds When the number of harvested mountain lions reaches the threshold, that zone closes to the additional harvest of mountain lions at sundown the Wednesday immediately following. Unlike the early hunt, the late hunt is managed for harvesting older aged deer, having high hunter success, and low density of hunters. There are several small herds that reside on the north side of Highway 89A in the grassland. Humphreys Peak is the highest point in Arizona, sitting at 12,637 feet in elevation, and it is a dormant volcano. These areas are open to foot and horseback travel only. I'd go the end of September into early October. Having extra spare tires would also be a good idea. Areas: During the spring turkey hunt significant winter snowfall can affect access and often dictates hunting locations. These early hunts can be difficult because the deer are typically located in areas of formidable cover and are not easily located or glassed. Elk in those areas are VERY few and far between, and if I were you, I wouldn't waste any more $$ on attempting to hunt it. Less pressure o grow big? Being in position at first shooting light can be critical as the big boys are often bedded down for the day within minutes of the sun breaking the horizon. I was thinking about that hunt also . During the winter months access to areas within 12A can be extremely limited, even nonexistent. A relatively constant output of trophy quality deer has been evident, throughout the history of the plateau, as demonstrated by a recent analysis of the Arizona Record book. Therefore, chances for success are very low. JM. The Alternative Deer Management Plan provides the guidelines for which decisions on hunt recommendations are made. MAP VIEW. Overview: The Unit 12A Mountain Lion population, based on harvest information and observed lion sign, appears to be healthy and robust. So research first, pick better Units and the PointGuard. Motor vehicle travel is restricted to existing roads on all BLM land in the Unit. in Page; Lees Ferry Campground, 4 miles north of Marble Canyon, administered by the National Park Service. Lost Canyon Hunts. Our Arizona hunting unit scouting packages were developed to give the do it yourself hunter a head start when planning their Arizona Deer, Elk, Bear and Javelina hunts. BOOK YOUR HUNT. There are many stock tanks located throughout House Rock Valley and the antelope herds tend to center their activities on these water sources depending on the frequency of summer monsoons. A forum community dedicated to hunting and fishing enthusiasts in the Arizona area. The Grand Canyon National Park is not open to hunting. There are 1,685 limited opportunity general (rifle) elk tags available in units all over Arizona. Learn more, 2018 Bison Hunter Packet 2017 Spring/Summer bison clinic video 2017 Fall bison clinic video. Hunt success figures have fluctuated around the 40-50% range for the last decade, some of the highest hunt success for mule deer in the state. During the fall hunt gas, food, and lodging can be found in Fredonia, Jacob Lake, and near DeMotte Park. A relatively constant output of older age-class deer has been evident, throughout the history of the plateau. The Department reminds hunters that bison within these hunt areas may not be present during the hunt. Update: In 2008, the Arizona Game and Fish Department discontinued aerial flights on the Kaibab National Forest to locate bison prior to hunts because so few bison were observed in previous years. As the fall progresses the deer become more and more secretive. Occasionally, depending on rainfall and the availability of forage, coveys can be found in some of the shallow drainages along Kanab Creek. That is not a problem since the other units may not have any elk at all. Deer Hunting in Arizona's Game Management Unit 12A - HuntScore Get unlimited access to over ten years of historical drawing and harvest data for over 1,700+ hunt units. Salt licks are a great attractant for deer and provide the same opportunity as waterholes. Some say the great days of the Kaibab are past, others maintain things are as good or better than ever, and still others claim things will be great in the future. *There are open limited opportunity draw bison hunts offered in 12A/12B/13A as well as general non-permit tag (non-draw) elk hunts offered in 12B. Dont be a statistic. Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mule Deer, Chukar. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. From the South: None. Look for areas with mixed conifer, aspens, and berry bushes in close proximity. On the Kaibab Plateau the bird has a very restricted range occupying mixed conifer habitat types near the south end of the Kaibab National Forest and is also found in the Grand Canyon National Park North Rim. New Harvest Thresholds When the number of harvested mountain lions reaches the threshold, that zone closes to the additional harvest of mountain lions at sundown the Wednesday immediately following. The majority of elk in this unit are located on National Forest lands in the southern part of the unit. Be prepared for a wide range of conditions including severe winter weather. Both of these units make up a portion of . Elk tags are offered thru the draw system. Just bad luck. This area will provide an excellent opportunity for archery and early season general deer hunters for the foreseeable future. Huge bucks, forkhorns, and even does have been the objects of desire for hunters in this unit. . You will find the majority of antelope south and east of the ranch and all the way out to the rim of Marble Canyon. Come prepared for all types of weather. Beginning at U.S. Hwy 89A and the Kaibab National Forest boundary near mp 566; southerly and easterly along the forest boundary to Grand Canyon National Park; northeasterly along the park boundary to Glen Canyon National Recreation area; easterly along the recreation area boundary to the Colorado River; northeasterly along the Colorado River to the Arizona-Utah state line; westerly along the state line to Kanab Creek; southerly along Kanab Creek to the Kaibab National Forest boundary; northerly, easterly, and southerly along this boundary to U.S. Hwy 89A near mp 566; except those portions that are sovereign tribal lands of the Kaibab Band of Paiute Indians. You could hire a outfitter to get in there and pin down where the few elk are. With continued and persistent drought the woody winter browse in 12AW has been less productive for the past several years and as result concerns over the carrying capacity of this vital range are warranted. In addition to the 48-hr reporting requirement, the hunter (or their designee) needs to present the mountain lions skull and hide with attached proof of sex to a designated Arizona Game and Fish Department employee for inspection within 10 days of taking the mountain lion. Be sure to make note of the extreme temperatures as these often pose the greatest risk to hunters. Deer begin to move down from the top Buckskin Mountains to the pinyon-juniper and sagebrush flats as the snow pushes them off the plateau during the late hunt. Areas: The Buckskin Mountains in the central portion of the unit contains the highest densities of deer and is best to hunt after mid-October. This may be a good place to introduce yourself and your site or include some credits. Dispersed camping is allowed along BLM routes. Antlerless hunters continue to enjoy high hunt success. Have fun, Maybe the trees will be in fall colors when your there, Beautiful colors that time of year. Thus it is important to be prepared with suitable shelter, plenty of food, water and lots of extra fuel. Arizona hunters still have an opportunity to receive a hunt permit-tag for select 2022 elk hunts. The health and longevity of this winter range is critical to the long term sustainability of the 12A deer herd. Pronghorn are also found along the edge of the plateau in the pinyon-juniper transition zone. The nonpermit-tag hunts in Units 12A and 12B are open through Dec. 31, while the nonpermit-tag hunts in Units 13A and 13B are open through Sept. 11, then again from Nov. 4 through Dec. 31. Areas: It may be hard to believe but the likelihood of running into an older age class buck, as near as the author can tell, is just about equal almost anywhere on the plateau. Adjust your hunting strategies accordingly and have fun. There is also a small herd that lives just south of Fredonia in the grassland/ low shrub density areas. The nature of early archery hunts dictates that most successful hunters will need to be physically fit enough to hike 3-5 miles a day in terrain ranging from 4800-7800 feet in elevation. BLM road 1065 runs north from U.S. Hwy 89A to U.S. Hwy 89 in Utah between the Buckskin Mountains and the Paria Plateau. 661 leftover tags for a reason. A total of 52 desert bighorn sheep were transplanted in the Paria Canyon-Vermillion Cliffs area in 1984 and 1985 from unit 15B near Lake Mead. The fall hunt is often characterized by warm to hot daytime temperatures and afternoon rains. Also, before the hunt begins, study topo maps and enlist the aid of others who have hunted the area before. Create a free account to read the rest of this elk hunting note! The Bureau of Land Management, Arizona Strip District, 345 E. Riverside Drive, St. George, Utah, 84770, phone (435) 688-3200 manages the majority of unit 12B. Many come with visions of 32 wide racks with multiple points per side, still others are happy with a tender yearling forkhorn. Northern half of the unit is ponderosa pine and mixed conifer forest, rolling hills, and high mountains. The grouse season in the fall provides a beautiful time to camp on the Kaibab and an inability to locate grouse is a great excuse for enjoying some of the finest scenery and weather Arizona has to offer. It has also been introduced in the San Francisco Peaks area near Flagstaff. Check stock tanks for elk use (tracks) prior to the season. Thanks a ton ! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. According to Arizona Game and Fish, Hunt No. During December, sheep are generally found at lower elevations on the talus slopes below the steep cliff faces. During the hunting seasons, unit 12A is characterized by sudden and drastic weather changes. The terrain in this unit could generally be described as plateau/canyon country. John is that a unit that can produce a monster bull? Arizona Elk Hunting, Draw Odds Results and Harvest Data - Toprut.com. Overview: According to David Brown in Arizona Game Birds the Blue grouse is a native of the Kaibab Plateau and restricted locals in the White Mountains. Areas:Any areas with concentrations of deer often have lions associated with them. The Arizona Game and Fish Commission authorized over-the-counter (OTC) elk tags that include units 12A and 12B and others (see regulations). Remember that hunting with the aid of a vehicle is prohibited. Areas: Concentrate your efforts on the southeast side of the Plateau in sub-unit 12AE. The most common technique for lion hunting in Unit 12 is similar to that used throughout the Rim country in Arizona. Toggle between terrain, satellite, and topographic views, 1st choice license applications and licenses drawn, Draw odds for resident and nonresident applicants, Harvest stats by hunt_code, manner, season, sex, type, Average # of days between precip or snow event, Probability of other weather events (thunder, hail, etc) by by month. As the crow flies its not more than 50 miles to the north end of the Kaibab plateau. This exotic game bird, native to the Middle East, was introduced into various areas in Arizona. The AZ/UT state line on a GPS unit is N37 00.0 latitude. Conditions can vary from 80 degrees to below freezing, from sunny to snow, and from pleasant to down right ugly. If you are fortunate enough to draw one of the most sought after deer tags in the United States come to the Kaibab with realistic expectations and remember, we hunt for the experience. These hunts include the Arizona strip (Units 13A or 13B) or Kaibab (Units 12A East, 12A West and 12B) for mule deer. Update: For the past few years, bison have been seen near Wall Lake, as well as along Forest Service Roads 219B, 223, 270, and 610. The unit's terrain is very rocky with rugged mountains. Grand Canyon National Park, North Rim 928 638-7870 During both the spring and fall hunts be safe and acquire positive target identification. By this time of year the deer are visiting water in the dark. I don't know if there is a worse hunt to be drawn for to be honest. I think may try to look for antlers first. I am just curious ,my first thoughts were not many bulls but maybe big? Areas around Crystal Springs, Sourdough Well, and along the 610 rd near the National Park Boundary provide the best opportunity for finding the often secretive Blue Grouse. Likewise, hunters who want to hunt the Paria Plateau must apply for a 12B permit. Also look for turkey scratch, those locations where flocks of turkeys have been feeding and have disturbed the litter layer of the forest floor. 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